Monday, July 16, 2012

Prosecute ‘Oil Price’ Fiddlers


The RAC and Road Freight Industry backed campaign group FairFuelUK has reacted with shock and anger to reports that Oil traders and other groups may have been involved in a LIBOR style rigging of markets.


Quentin Willson, national spokesman for FairFuelUK said, ‘I've always maintained that speculation and price manipulation is rife in the oil market. But if there's been a deliberate fiddling of the figures by financial institutions and traders, this will have cost UK consumers millions in unnecessary expenditure and has worked to frustrate the efforts of honourable organisations like FairFuelUK who have worked hard to protect consumers and businesses from high fuel prices. These dark and devious forces should be held to account and an investigation into oil price manipulation started immediately. Such heartless exploitation of hard-working families and businesses for personal gain is unbelievable.'

Peter Carroll, founder of FairFuelUK said, ‘If these reports are true those involved should be named, shamed and prosecuted’.

FairFuelUK is campaigning for the Government to initiate two enquiries:  
  1. The first into the alleged rigging of the Oil price.  
  2. The second into the whole market process of petrol & diesel in the UK. 
To help get these enquiries take place, please add your support by completing the FairFuelUK Poll at http://www.fairfueluk.com/call_for_enquiry.html 

Source of posts from Daily Telegraph news report: Click Here  and here



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[ posted by Andrew Abbott, 16.07.12 19:14 ]

All the public ask is fair play for all!

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[ posted by James Oliver Hogan, 16.07.12 19:19 ]

I fully support you in finding out if oil prices have been rigged. I suspect you are correct in your assumptions.

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[ posted by Chris Bell, 16.07.12 19:19 ]

not before time however it might be a little late for the small businesses which have had to close the doors due to high vehicle running costs especially in the service industry

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[ posted by Jeff Samuel, 16.07.12 19:21 ]

Please explain how Tesco on all but one occasion at Seacroft Leeds have increased their pump prices by at least 1p a litre at the same time as giving discounts of 5p.Therefore falsely advertising 5p off a litre.
Also all other petrol stations in the area immediately they see Tesco's price hike increase their prices for no reason even when the price of oil is falling.
This is exactly what happened 3 weeks ago.

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[ posted by LESLIE HAYWARD, 16.07.12 19:22 ]

I live in a rural area and rely on my car.Also i am a pensioner.

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[ posted by alan watt, 16.07.12 19:22 ]

All the bankers, tax dodgers, anyone price fixing, should be put on trial, if found guilty ( this would never happen ) sent to jail.

Un the UK we have, laws for the rich and separate laws for the working classes,

Alan

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[ posted by Peter Payne, 16.07.12 19:24 ]

Not greedy bankers at it again ! Surely not ! They live off the backs of really hard working people, who struggle to maintain there finances, while the fat cats in the power seats, manipulate the market and the profit margins to substantiate their huge salarys and bonus's.
And when they do get found out, they resign, and get an even bigger pay out. Its scanderlous.
They should prosecuted for misleading, stripped of their ill gotten wealth, and made to suffer living on the state benifit system, let them see how extortianate there price of petrol really is, when you need to fill a car up out, that allows them to get the kids to school then live on the remainder, they might appreciate things a little more, than taking huge profits for granted.
Shame on you greedy parasites !

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[ posted by Martin johnson, 16.07.12 19:25 ]

I have lived in France for quite a while before and always questioned the high Uk prices for diesel and petrol in Uk,compared to France and even more so Spain, I ask questions why we pay so much more for diesel in Uk, the opposite everywhere else. This disgusting way the Uk is falling into the high prices in Uk, we are stupid to except this and should fight this right down to the end. All truck drivers travelling to Europe know this full well and fill the tanks on the other side. Why is the government so unaware of all this con ?? The oil companies use the Uk to create huge profits, they need to go of as you say , names and shamed , I have watch this going on here in Uk and it makes my blood boil. How is it that people in Uk are so wet and don't fight these the unfair practises like the french do, there they would bring the country to it's knees if this happened. Wake up Uk for gods sake and do something!!!!

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[ posted by Andy Brown, 16.07.12 19:28 ]

This does not surprise me at all, I am sad to say that Rip off Britain is alive and kicking , these people who have heaped misery on the working class need to be stripped like drug dealers are of all assets gained by foul means ......

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[ posted by gillian bonham, 16.07.12 19:33 ]

I live in a rural area in which the bus services are scarce and people rely on their cars. We have two BP garages close by, one of which is linked to the local Co-op. Why are their petrol and diesel prices so high, when you can drive 4 miles down the road and a little independant garage is 4p a litre cheaper. I refuse to line the big boys pockets when surely they pay less to buy their fuel than the smaller garages.
As for the government, they are just a joke, the country is struggling, everything is going up except the wages, fuel goes up, the cost of food goes up and it is spiraling out of control. When will this country finally wake up to being ripped off for everything!!!!!!

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[ posted by ali ross, 16.07.12 19:34 ]

Don't forget that we actually voted for all of these whinging, scrounging thieves to be in control of our country.

They clearly could not run a bath.

I love this country but I hate what it has become, in front of my eyes, and I feel ashamed. LIBOR is just the peak of the mountain. The governments...sorry..the people in Westminster.....on big wages and big pensions, were probably getting taxes from the profits from the banks, so why should they bother, and here's the rub whilst everyone is bleating about lending to businesses, there is a little known organisation, only recently formed-about 450 years ago-that may be able to lend at really low rates. Its a bank, its called the Bank Of England. Why cannot they lend to businesses at really low rates, oh and by the way they were aware of "iffy dealings in LIBOR" when Balls was in the Government. Rant over. well done on the lack of further theft on the fuel situation, but they will creep up so that the majority of Brits will just give up, because that 's what we seem to do now.

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[ posted by Alex Neely, 16.07.12 19:34 ]

The oil price was nearly 130$ a barrel at one point, now it is less than 100$ a barrel yet fuel has not dropped correspondingly.
I notice that my local MP did not support the dropping of the tax due this August and I can only assume that they know about this fuel price fixing, in order, as they see it to reduce the deficit.
If I look at the price of fuel abroad especially Luxembourg, I cannot understand why it is so high in the UK
I fully support measures to reduce fuel price in the same way as the interest rate is lowered.

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[ posted by Julian Buck, 16.07.12 19:38 ]

Im disabled by losing my left leg hence I cannot access busses very easily. Patient transport is being cut by East Anglian Ambulance Service and I rely heavily on my car to get metro hospital appointments and regular dialysis treatment. If this accusation is true I'm furious that people are getting rich by fixing the oil prices in their favour.

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[ posted by george masson, 16.07.12 19:40 ]

Why is diesel more expensive in the this country when it is a lot cheaper to refine than petrol and why can the supermarkets charge less for fuel than the the the big companies who supply it I also notice that BP is the most expensive garages in the country usually about 5p dearer than the supermarkets at any time I hope the speculators who cause so much misery are caught and punished soonest.

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[ posted by Christopher Brown, 16.07.12 19:46 ]

Mmm. In the Shetlands on saturday petrol was 145p In my home supermarket in Beccles suffolk it is 134p and if you spend over £40.00 in store you can have another 6p off.
So as the Shetland Isles are the nearest to the oil production in the North sea and are very much part of the UK, why are they being penalised? This is disgraceful.

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[ posted by Edd Lorkins, 16.07.12 19:50 ]

I have noticed this a long way back.
A few years ago when a barrel of oil was $80 petrol was 80p per ltr
Then it went up to $100 a barrel, petrol was £1 a ltr. Get the picture
Now a barrel has been up and down but finally its now about $100 a barrel but petrol is £140 per ltr???
It should be back to £1 as before. Whats going on.
Its a complete rip off, only a fool cant see it.

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[ posted by Edd Lorkins, 16.07.12 19:52 ]

I have noticed this a long way back.
A few years ago when a barrel of oil was $80 petrol was 80p per ltr
Then it went up to $100 a barrel, petrol was £1 a ltr. Get the picture
Now a barrel has been up and down but finally its now about $100 a barrel but petrol is £140 per ltr???
It should be back to £1 as before. Whats going on.
Its a complete rip off, only a fool cant see it.

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[ posted by Duncan Watt, 16.07.12 19:54 ]

Petrol and diesel prices have been manipulated for years. A tour round any town will show that all fuel prices in anyone area are around the same price, give or take a few pence. The large supermarkets may be slightly lower, but they all charge the same price. As one trader cuts prices, the others follow, only to find that in a few days, prices creep up again. Also a rise in crude is immediately applied at the pumps whereas a drop in the price of crude takes weeks to filter through, if at all.

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[ posted by Pete Still, 16.07.12 20:01 ]

This fuel exploitation has gone on for years. The OFT have had lots of inquiries regarding the oil cartels and find the same with the energy companies - they're doing nothing wrong. So perhaps we need a different type of inquiry. We all know what's going on but it's not in the government's interest to expose it whilst they see the motorist as a cash cow with fuel duty AND vat (a tax on a tax).
The powers that be have tied the truckers hands by taking their operators licenses if they protest - what does that telk you.
A REAL inquiry needs to happen into oil price fixing. The government that does this properly would be certain of re-election. Come on UKIP, get behind this!QQ

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[ posted by Jeff Sharp, 16.07.12 20:05 ]

About time someone looked into this the biggest scam ever, I can only agree with the comments listed and really feel the price of fuel has been driven up in an attempt to give the bankers and oil company directors even bigger bonuses. If this proves to be correct then anyone found price fixing, should be put on trial, if found guilty have their assets stripped and then be sent to jail.

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[ posted by johnrichardson, 16.07.12 20:13 ]

wy are we so gullable when diesel engines became popular in cars the government in power then decided to con the public
by saying it cost more to produce diesel than petrol this is pure bunkem as it actually cost less. its about time the government came clean & addressed the matter.
ps in most of other countries diesel is cheaper than petrol

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[ posted by Damon Russell, 16.07.12 20:13 ]

As is the norm, the hard working, tax paying average man and woman are filling the pockets of the greedy rich who get wealthier and wealthier with their illegal activities. I'm tired of being trodden on by these people, it's hard enough to deal with a government with little regard for it's voters. We are raped of our hard earned money in every possible way, taxed when we earn, taxed when we spend, taxed when we save..... I really can envisage a very pissed off society turning very angry with the constant struggle to survive this rat race we're in and the riots of last year will seem like a playground fight in comparison.
The fuel price problem could very easily be solved if the nation stuck together and decided to boycott different fuel suppliers from day to day or even week to week. The station charging the most would be avoided by all. There would be an unavoidable domino effect for them...drop your prices or we just will not buy from you.

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[ posted by P Maher, 16.07.12 20:20 ]

It makes me feel sad that our fellow Britons feel no shame at robbing us all for their personal gain. My 85 yr old husband doesn't walk and we carry a wheelchair or a large buggy with a hoist in the car. Nowhere would we find public transport to help us, and although there is a small bus 3/4 mile down a hilly road, we can't use it. His life is circumscribed by not being able to afford to take trips out, and life at home in an isolated house is very boring. The supermarket is a 12 mile round trip,a cinema a good 50 mile trip,ditto our "nearest" M and S, which would involve driving into an expensive city carpark and unloading--assuming there is room to do so. It's funny how we can "afford" nearly £14m for the useless Olympics, but nothing to help rural dwellers afford to use the necessary cars. I get the impression that the powers think we just go out for a "spin"; they have no idea of the impact of fuel costs on daily lives.

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[ posted by Stuart Allen, 16.07.12 20:26 ]

I have been driving for over fourty years now and when i first started petrol was cheap, diesel was dearer.
When diesel became less confined to lorries buses etc and more cars were being produced with diesel engines everybody started buying diesel cars.
lo and behold the more popular they became we were told buy diesel its cleaner cheaper etc.
Things came to pass and diesel became more popular and then the prices changed, thats why diesel is dearer now we use more of it.
Of course the prices are rigged that way they benefit and we the ordinary motorist loses, as we do in everything.

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[ posted by arthur kennedy, 16.07.12 20:28 ]

Why can a supermarket like Morrisons or Tesco give a 6 or 5p discount on petrol (when you spend £40 in shop) is profit margin so great they can afford to do that ?

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[ posted by Martin Stock, 16.07.12 20:28 ]

It appears that Tesco are not the only ones putting up the price of their fuel and then offering a discount. Morrisons in Hastings over a period of a few days put up the price of diesel 3p and then give a coupon for 6p off per litre. How is it that the price of their fuel can vary in price by so much from different areas of the country and yet all supermarkets in one area can have the same price? It's just yet another rip off, those who have money will continue to make more at the expense of those who don't!!!!!

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[ posted by Brian Morris, 16.07.12 20:29 ]

Once again the snouts are in the trough, I have suspected something like this was going to happen for some time. I too would like to know why diesel is more expensive than petrol ? once again rip off Britain !!!!!

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[ posted by Eddie Williams, 16.07.12 20:29 ]

As a pensioner I fully support your effort to uncover these crooks who are eating into my hard earned pension!!

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[ posted by malcolm keast, 16.07.12 20:46 ]

First of all the fair fuel team are doing a wonderful job-keep up the good work. I totally agree with gillian bonham the price of everything goes up when fuel goes up my wife and i are pensioners and have a mobility car but we hardly use it because of the fuel cost, i feel sorry for the people that have to travel miles to and from work,this government doesn't mind it's all extra tax to them-this country is being well and truly ripped off soon people will be working just to pay the government!!!
I honestly don't think the government cares, BUT let's hope they do something fast-but there again they will lose too much tax!!!!

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[ posted by JOHN LLOYD, 16.07.12 20:50 ]

Of course the prices have been manipulated. There should be an independant inquiry into this systematic robbery,but with Cameron and his poodle Clegg in charge it will be swept under the carpet. juet look what they did with the thieving banks.

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[ posted by Jarvis Browning, 16.07.12 20:52 ]

Tesco is not cheaper,as you have to spend over £50 in shopping,before you can get your 5p per lt off pump price.£1.36p where in a inderpendent garage near us, it is £1.33p ! without having to spend the needless £50 shopping.Yet a local firm I used to have an account with is very slow in reducing thier prices,where as this inderpend retailer seem to manage quite well,better than the big boys (BP) down the road.Fairfuel have done well so far,yet we have alot more to do yet.Why has AA not come on board ? where is everybody that drives too ?
It is still too high,though I have mensioned to my MP,that I dont agree paying Duty & VAT as if Duty goes up, so does VAT on top off the total we have to pay.It realy should be iether Duty or VAT.Not both.

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[ posted by Derek Cooper, 16.07.12 20:59 ]

If it is proved that we are being ripped of,then I would fully support more pressure being put on the controlling authorities ie the government.Rip of Britain again!!!

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[ posted by Brian Morris, 16.07.12 21:01 ]

Once again the snouts are in the trough, I have suspected something like this was going to happen for some time. I too would like to know why diesel is more expensive than petrol ? once again rip off Britain !!!!!

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[ posted by ELIZABETH MCPHERSON, 16.07.12 21:17 ]

WHY IM I NOT SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT THE OIL PRICES HAVE BEEN RIGGED I LIVE IN ABERDEENSHIRE AND THE PRICES WHERE I LIVE ARE TERRIBLE ABOUT 1.36 A LITRE THE GOVERMENT ARE AT FAULT AS WELL THEY NEED TO LOOK INTO IT AND ITS ALWAYS THE PEOPLE THAT HAS TO STRUGGLE

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[ posted by Robert Jaconelli, 16.07.12 21:22 ]

why is everyone surprised...This is just the continuation of the greed society started by Maggie Thatcher. Tory Philosophy says the rich should get richer and the poor get poorer. tony Blair was one of the rich who help perpetuete this philosophy.

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[ posted by Tom conn, 16.07.12 21:25 ]

I seem to remember a tv programme where the rich traded places for a week with someone on benefits. Let's get the bankers onto a similar thing for a year and then ask them if everything is fair for the struggling working man/woman (who most probably are only earning minimum wages). We can always boycott the big oil companies like I have been doing for years always travelling to the cheapest garage usually at a supermarket when doing the shopping. If everyone done the same thing ( I know there was a campaign similar to this years ago ) the larger companies would need to take note.

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[ posted by Roy Blanning, 16.07.12 21:31 ]

I agree with everything said particularly about the price differential between petrol and diesel, but why have you chosen to publish nine copies of 'gillian bonham's' post??

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[ posted by walter weir, 16.07.12 21:34 ]

i asked our local morrison`s outlet (livingston west lothian) why there was such a difference in prices across our area and their answer was they only watch the prices locally. surely they should be selling at the best price they can but they only compete with local filling stations for example perth filling stations were selling at 7p a litre cheaper than i can buy it here this is a rip off for the people who do their shopping at their livingston store so stay away from these people

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[ posted by Steve Clarke, 16.07.12 21:43 ]

WE have lived for a very long time now, probably since the early '70's, under too many corporate companies striving to rip-off the lower and middle classes. Time is ripe now for massive uprisings and demonstrations, even shutting down the UK. until this stupid greedy government is destroyed and a new Labour government is installed. Thatcher destroyed our industries and now Libdems are taxing us to the hilt and what for?.

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[ posted by ray peers, 16.07.12 21:46 ]

if it is ever proven that figures were juggled to increase profites, that amounts to fraud,and as such a JAIL sentence shoud be awaiting those responsable, wether they be BANKERS,FAT GREEDY CATS senior management a spell as guest of her majesty would go down well then maybe,just maybe some fat cats will get the message and stop ripping the people of this country off, i wonder how many MPs would back the call for an enquiery into this potential FIDDLE.

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[ posted by Roger Hann, 16.07.12 22:24 ]

I have been in transport all my working live and we have all ways said about how the fuel prices have been, also that the fuel prices govern the cost of every thing in the stores, it`s about time the government realised this but they are not bothered they just look after them selves.

Thank you for trying to get the cost of fuel into an affordable position.

Cheers.

Roger.

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[ posted by Chaz Jordan, 16.07.12 22:32 ]

It has never failed to amaze me how the 'ordinary' person on the street is as GREEDY as the next person. If there is a way to rip the likes of you and I off, they will find a way and if no one says anything, they'll keep ripping us off! And thats a fact !! It about time we all stood up to challenge the greedy bar stewards in an urge to inspire others to join the ranks of the disgruntled in order to reduce the fuel prices.

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[ posted by Elizabeth Sylvester-Gray, 16.07.12 22:35 ]

I think the "chiefs" should be bringing down the price of petrol and diesel - they are just making more money for themselves and not thinking of people who have to rely on their cars for transportation.

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[ posted by The Albatross, 16.07.12 22:55 ]

Do I hear the Cartel?

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[ posted by Malcolm, 16.07.12 23:08 ]

I fear any investigation will go the same way as the previous one on the cartel rigging between the Oil Companies - we all knew what was happening but no proof of course!

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[ posted by Ray Hunt-Terry, 17.07.12 00:12 ]

I have always suspected that those greedy oil traders were cooking the books and this seems to confirm that !
I want these thief's prosecuted ,named and shamed and given prison sentences ,also the oil companies should pay back the motorist compensation for all the money WE have been ripped off by them .
THE GOVERNMENT should also be held responsible as I`m sure they would have known this was going on but turned the other cheek , shame on them !!

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[ posted by kevin neate, 17.07.12 01:30 ]

Nothing new here. speculators have manipulated the cost of all commodities since time immemorial. tea, coffee, bananas, metals etc. now we have more of them in on the act such as hedge funds and/finance insurance companies and of course all the big greedy retailers jump on the bandwagon for easy cash and dont forget the tax crazed government who levy filthy VAT on all this largesse.
There is only one loser as always - Joe Public ripped right off ie me and you.
Shoot the lot of them!!!!!

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[ posted by Saeed Naderi-Dehkordi, 17.07.12 06:09 ]

Banks, Insurance Companies, Oil Companies, Gas and Electric, What is NEXT?

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[ posted by Andrew Booth, 17.07.12 08:16 ]

What more is there to say?
Each comment above just outlines all the problems and difficulties that the country is going through. Id gladly pay an extra £1 per week on my PAYE if it meant the fuel could be capped at £1 per liter. The government could put the £1 rise across the board and everyone would be so much better off as costs of transport would come down considerably and the smaller haulage companies could then compete with the bigger firms thus having the knock on effect with food and everything else that people buy daily.

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[ posted by Ron Backhouse, 17.07.12 08:20 ]

I totally agree with all the blog posters - Gillian, we only need to be told once, thanks! Joking aside, I personally cannot understand why fuel prices differ so much across the country when it should all cost the same; Morrisons in Bradford are usually different by a penny per litre between sites less than two miles apart! I sincerely think at least that large supermarket chains should all charge the same price across the country, after all they must have the same supplier!

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[ posted by John Throssell, 17.07.12 08:56 ]

I couldn't agree more with what you are trying to achieve, dishonesty in business is rife it appears what with the LIBOR fixing and now HSBC money laundering, I find it peculiar that Brit companies get thrashed and the truth slowly leaks out about other countries but thats another story. What we need is not for the business just to be fined but for international law to accomodate the personal fines and the jailing of perpetrators from the boardroom down.

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[ posted by Terry Cartwright, 17.07.12 09:00 ]

Congratulations on this initiative. I have been lobbying my MP (Jeremy Hunt, who has recently been somewhat preoccupied with calls for his resignation and Olympics problems) for three years, asking him to encourage his fellow ministers to investigate the oil companies over their pricing. He has either failed to respond or said that the government is "doing all it can", but needs duty and tax revenue because of the deficit. He has rejected the FairFuelUK campaign's statistics detailing the economic benefits of price cuts out of hand and appears to fail to grasp the damage to the economy caused by rising prices.

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[ posted by cyril phillips, 17.07.12 09:24 ]

MP's expenses, press/police corruption, banking industry,and now oil companies doesn't it make you feel proud.Don't despair the government will set up an inquiry that will sort it out, in a few years maybe.

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[ posted by Allan Scott, 17.07.12 09:30 ]

I am in Spain at the moment and paying €1.35 per litre for diesel which works out at £1.06. Petrol is selling at around €1.41. These prices have increased from earlier in the year when I paid €1.28 for diesel but I fear Spain is trying to raise money by fuel taxes. Why though is the price that much cheaper and diesel cheaper than petrol? Remember these prices are based on subdued exchange rates - most experts reckon we should be back to near €1.40 to the pound.
I bought my diesel car because the government encouraged everyone to use diesel as cleaner diesel was supposedly better for fuel efficiency. As soon as everyone went for the diesel option the government raised the price of diesel and also pushed the tax disc cost for diesel cars through the roof!
If you afford to change your car regularly and opt for more efficient systems that's fine but I cannot afford £20,000 and £5000 every 3 years to keep up with the whims of the government.

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[ posted by jill pendlebury, 17.07.12 09:58 ]

I live out in the country side, and I am a disabled person, and I am a pensioner, so need my car to get arround.

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[ posted by Malcolm Hubert, 17.07.12 10:02 ]

If reducing the higher rate of income tax is going to bring in more income to the treasury, why not reduce fuel tax by 5%, collect more as people spend more, reduce inflation and boost the economy all in one go?

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[ posted by Harry Blakeley, 17.07.12 10:06 ]

Fuel pricing affects everyone, EVERYONE, rich, poor old young, vehicle owners and non vehicle owners WHY? No one is totally self sufficient, we have food and other essentials delivered either to home or shops and these deliveries are by vehicle.
Fuel is a part of the delivery costs so we ALL pay therefore the poorest pay a higher percentage of their income that the better off.
Pensioners are usually on a fixed income so have to scowl and bear it!

Harry Blakeley (one of the oppressed)

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[ posted by Sion Jones, 17.07.12 10:10 ]

I have often wondered, why is diesel more expensive in the UK, as against other EU countries? I used to work in the fuel industry before I retired,I know that diesel is cheaper to produce than petrol. Diesel comes out of the 'cracking plant' at a lower level than petrol. I live in the rural area of south west Wales. In some garages the diesel is £1.40/litre and other garages it is £1.36. Why the difference? The fuel is delivered to the garages in my area from the same (terminal) refineries.

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[ posted by Ron Payne, 17.07.12 10:11 ]

All the multinational companies have realised that the UK's lack lustre politicians are an easy touch, conesquently they are increasingly ripping us off.

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[ posted by Roger Winfield, 17.07.12 10:12 ]

Fuel prices have impact on other prices - ransport costs are reflected in the prices we pay for most things. If, like my wife and me, other people have cutailed car travel to reduce expenditure, the industry is losing in one way by its greed. Our whole economy is affected by lack of spending and so we all suffer. Surely, the oil companies could improve their own lot and that of millions of households in the UK if they decided to play fai and charge a realistic price. However, I suspect that they have decided that as oil is a finate commodity, they will continue to rip us off and to blazes with everyone else.

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[ posted by trevor adams, 17.07.12 10:22 ]

the government are just sitting on their hands and watching this play out, after all if they intervene and manage to reduce prices it will hit them hard at the treasury.Nobody has the balls in parliament to say that`s enough!

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[ posted by elizabeth stephenson, 17.07.12 10:26 ]

it haPPens all the time the government dont have to worry about the high cost of fuel because they earn a lot more than the average person they are driven everywhere, it's not the british publics fault yet again greedy speculators hiking the fuel costs up and the the people of great britain suffer the most the people that make the rules in this country dont care because the dont live in the real world they just take and take it's about time the people in this country stood up to them other countries dont like something they stand up to them bring back robin hood.

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[ posted by Mike H, 17.07.12 11:04 ]

Yes go for it!! Agree with all of the above. I've long ago reached the stage of having to eke out what's left in the tank because I can't afford a proper fill-up until I'm flush again. Not to mention pushing the prices up of everything else we have to buy due to transport costs.

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[ posted by Jeff, 17.07.12 11:22 ]

We have witnessed that for years we have been conned by price fixing in the UK. Where have succesive Government been? They should have been protecting us from these crooked activities. Unless, of course, they are part of it! Surely we have Barristors, Judges and high level business leaders who can help fight this corruption? Where are they? Why isn't the media fighting this cause on a daily basis? Where are the investigative journalists? Forget about so called celebs. This is real life and a real life crisis for many of us in the UK. Why aren't the TV companies following these stories and asking real questions and doggedly getting the answers? Why aren't the soaps highlighting these issues? Surely, the fictional characters in Eastenders and Corrie have been affected by price hikes? The knock on effects of rises in fuel prices is enormous and affects us all. Some obviously have the money to cope better than others. I call on you lawyers and journalists to start using your talents for the good of the UK.

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[ posted by doug, 17.07.12 11:42 ]

Situation in North Wales desperate.If it was not for the super markets we would still be paying 1.45 per litre.Already here in north Wales fuel has gone up by 2 pence in last week Franchises in North Wales have never brought the price of fuel down by reccomended level.local papers have not been much help either.

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[ posted by Larry Norman, 17.07.12 11:45 ]

Yes amazing all the difference prices around the country but are we as Brits not to blame for letting it happen. The French farmers have it right if it doesnt suit them they put up blockades, stop everything and get what they want, we sadly roll on our backs and make the FAT CATS FATTER. Surveys arent the answer do something STAND UP AND FIGHT instead of moaning about it or get a push bike.

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[ posted by glyn mason, 17.07.12 11:58 ]

Well i am not suprised that oil prices have been manipulated or fiddled i think the bankers and oil traders are all a like looking after each other and not being botherd about the consiquences for normal law abiding people if this is true the magntude of what this can have on the hole world has to be huge no wonder we are in a double dip recestion and maybe we are even on are way to a deprestion if things are not delt with right very soon in a proper police lead backed by a judge or judge's investiagtion in to all things oil and bank affairs a like ,yes i agree with the above from (jeff)why are we not seeing the press and other big organstion like the bbc doing a investiagtion into all this money and oil related i belive we are at a turning point either now or in the not too distant futre we are going to have more problems if this lieing and cheating and fixing things doesn't stop ,like for instance the tax ivasion that's going on as well ,if somthing isn't done now i think we could have a war on are hands on a diffrent level we have never seen in volving money and oil and land ,we need action now

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[ posted by james cormack, 17.07.12 13:13 ]

Whilst I agree totally with the comments posted above and in particular with the comments made by Jeff. It will take a all-out dedicated effort on behalf of all of our press and investigative reporters to bring to the attention of governments that the production costs of diesel and petrol should not as some would have it be down to "market forces" alone. and a fairer pricing structure would benifit the country as a whole. Perhaps following the French peoples example would encourage governments who "don't listen" to take note of what the general public are saying.

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[ posted by Barry Hall, 17.07.12 13:31 ]

The whole country is run by greedy people, greed is a sickness and these people are so sick they could never change.

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[ posted by Colin Simpson, 17.07.12 13:43 ]

Everyone in the whole of the UK should park up their vehicles for a week , cars, taxi's trucks , everything. The amount of revenue that the government would loose would maybe wake them up from sleeping on their government benches.

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[ posted by Mal H, 17.07.12 16:08 ]

Colin is correct, this was seen to work a number of years ago when one particular oil company introduced a 10p rise, their sites werte boycotted and the price dropped within a week. People power and using your purchase perogative works

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[ posted by Mal H, 17.07.12 16:41 ]

I have spent my working life in the oil industry. Oil from 'cradle to grave' as they say.
The oil companies could afford to give you petrol & diesel, but then the government could not tax it could they?
Oil companies make the major profits from the smaller constituents of the barrel, so they have to get rid of the bulk, made up of, Tars, Oils, Paraffin, Jet fuel, Gas Oil, Heating Oil, Diesel & Petrol. So there you go you are buying your fuel at a 'Waste Disposal Center'
Remember 'Price Watch', at that time the Oil companies were not 'in bed' with the Supermarkets and their refining capacity was so low that their profitability on the smaller more expensive products was suffering greatly, so enter 'Price Watch' force the supermarkets into bed with them and get the refineries back up to full capacity. The Supermarkets went for this one because they were not now competing with the oil companies and could actually make a profit out of fuel instead of using it as a 'Loss Leader'
Your small independent dealer can not buy it for the price the supermarkets sell it for, so don't blame him for the price.
These people at the top of the major corporations and banks etc., do not live on the same plain as the rest of us, they do not even realize what they are doing, they are playing a power game for real and they are so far above reality the world where the rest of us live does not exist outside of the boardroom and Laptop.
They need their bubble to be bust and JAILED. We need a Government with Backbone and commitment to fairness, I will ask Hans Anderson to find one!

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[ posted by HOWIE BOLT, 17.07.12 16:50 ]

TAKING THE "MICHAEL" COMES TO MIND....I,M BEING POLITE SAYING MICHAEL BY THE WAY...

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[ posted by Brian Watson, 17.07.12 17:48 ]

The Goverment should also be brought book as well as the oil companies. They promised to look into this but once again nothing but lies they want the TAX.

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[ posted by Brian Camfield, 17.07.12 18:15 ]

I believe that Bosses pay culture is to blame. The bigger the profit the bigger the Bonus and untill there is a change to htis type of pay structure we the minions will always have to keep them in the standard of living we can only match with a Lottery Roll Over win.

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[ posted by Martyn Williams, 17.07.12 18:39 ]

Why does this not surprise me, if MP's can do it, Banks can do it, then why should the petrol tycoons be any different ! It's getting to a stage that we as a nation will be known as Citizen softies, yes there should be a public enquiry, it's about time we all said "NO MORE RIP OFF BRITAIN"

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[ posted by Andy J, 17.07.12 18:49 ]

I totally agree with all the comments regarding price fixing etc. It has always been known that diesel is cheaper to produce than petrol, but of course our greed driven government encouraged us to switch to diesel power on the pretext of better economy, lower emissions etc....and then increase the price above petrol. Better fuel duty gains. Greedy scum tax dodging, expense fiddling politicians (Yes Mr Cameron and Mr Clegg you are part of the establishment). The price fixing / fiddling of fuel, ineterest rates etc is all part and parcel of controlling the masses, i.e. you and me. If you have money in your pocket you are not so 'controllable', keep you skint and 'wanting' then they can control and manipulate you easier through the monetary system. Think about it. You want more money in your pocket to buy little luxuries in life (Food, roof over ones head) so you work harder and earn a little extra, therefore inevitably paying more tax and feeding the government machine. Thats what they want. It doesn't matter which party are in power (Liberals, conservatives or labour) they are being controlled and dictated to by the ones who control the money. Just google 'The House of Rothchild' and do a little reading and then you will realise that this is all part of the 'New World Order'. One Rothchild quoted as saying something along the lines of 'I don't care for governments, it is the one who controls the money that has the power'. Ask yourself who funds the governments, i.e. loans them money? Bank of England.........but who actually controls the bank of England? You and I are just pawns in one huge game of greed and control. Wake up Britain. No, I'm not some nutcase who reads too much David Icke, just a normal working guy with 2 kids a wife and a dog, but I'm just beginning to realise that I am being controlled and manipulated against my will.

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[ posted by james king, 17.07.12 19:08 ]

FAIRFUEL have the power to ask all its supporters to avoid certain oil companies at certain times i for one will follow their choice
every month.

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[ posted by Clive Taylor, 17.07.12 19:34 ]

Im saddened and sickened over 50 years of motoring I have spent a fortune and to hear the possibilit of this scandal is the last stray, I dont trust many now . go for it Fair fuel expose these scum to the world .

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[ posted by mary thompson, 17.07.12 19:47 ]

Why can't people play fair. Oil is very expensive, and when you live rurally, you don't have a lot of choice on how to heat your home.
Being retired and disabled makes keeping warm difficult. Getting out and about isn't cheap either. Deisel costs need to be assessed.
How can it cost more more than petrol, when it is not refined.

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[ posted by marjory ann lindsay mcquaker, 17.07.12 20:05 ]

I will also follow Fairfuel,s advice. It is sad that this one great Uk is being fleeced by greedy beings. It is time the decent members of public said enough is enough. Perhaps a revolution against this might be the answer. I am disgusted.

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[ posted by Raymond K, 17.07.12 20:54 ]

Rockschild ???? or what ever their called is one of the world's largest independent financial advisory groups, employing 3000 people in 42 countries around the world. I have to agree with Andy.J's comments 17/07/2012 these people are in control of the working class and our finances, and don't give a freaking hoot nor do the so called MP's. FairFuel I am with you all the way like thousands of others.

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[ posted by Doug Jones, 17.07.12 21:17 ]

If I remmber correctly, not so many years ago, diesel used to be cheaper than petrol to purchase at the pump. At that time it was all the rage to buy a car with a diesel engine to try and make personal travel cheaper. Then all of a sudden diesel was more expensive than petrol, catching a lot of folk in a trap.

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[ posted by Brian Jefferies, 17.07.12 22:01 ]

middle class Working class. Middle class can afford to bye the shares in the oil companies,Bit like keeping the lower classes with the arrival of the WINDRUSH In their place, think Buses Trains Hospitals immigration All about keepjng control of their shares Who control this MP"Sl

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[ posted by Keith Gillis, 17.07.12 22:29 ]

We need a local blog showing the garages that are the cheapest in your area, the day of cheap supermarket fuel are over. in our area there is 5p a litre difference in half a mile between garages, the dearer being BP, when I pulled them over the price difference the dearer garage just shrugged their shoulders, so did I and only put in £2.00 enough to get to the next garage when I tanked up with 80 litres

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[ posted by Anthony Pannell, 18.07.12 00:28 ]

Why is it that the same chain, price there fuel depending on your postcode.

The price of fuel at Morrisons can be up to a few pence higher in Mansfield than it is in Derby.

I agree that if the tankers have to drive to a hard to reach location to deliver their fuel, the price might have a slight increase, but seriously both these stations are accessible by dual carriageway off the M1 J28. One is in an area where the postcode has been given a different rating to the other.

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[ posted by stewart h dickison, 18.07.12 00:52 ]

get all the mps to meet the cost of their transport out of their pockets only then will thay realise what the man on the street has to put up with

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[ posted by Ken P, 18.07.12 11:07 ]

If this is proven it is clearly fraud and as such the full wieght of the law should be used to secure prosecutions. It is no good David Cameron making platitudes about such issues. The public are tired of the selfish greed shown by market makers and MPs alike. These people need bringing down to earth with a bump!

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[ posted by Alan Farley, 18.07.12 11:38 ]

As a carer for a wife with mobility problems and unable to take advantageso that motorists could boyc of free bus and train travel i am forced to use my car to travel everywhere, i only fill up with deisel at supermarket venue's and will not support garages that over charge inflated fuel prices.

Why not publish a list of garages that sell fuel at best prices in various area's so that motorists could boycott the greedy suppliers like B.P this would soon bring prices into line.

Alan.

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[ posted by Margaret Unsworth, 18.07.12 15:17 ]

sadly we live in a corrupt society. Until we get rid of these peoplle that think they can get away with cheating all normal hardworking members of the public how can things ever get better? It is either the govrenment , Bankers now the oil barons. Who next will join these dregs of humanity.,

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[ posted by Andy Hill, 18.07.12 15:23 ]

Our local BP has now started 2 Days of Cheap Fuel Campaingn, yet they are 8p dearer that the super market and the price is never "Cheap" again rackateering and prey on vunerable motorist.

Small towns in scotland ar trading at about 6p Dearer that the Asda's in Aberdeen .... If Asda can manage it surely other can!

Main Culprit -- BP Service Station - Stonehaven

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[ posted by john barry holt, 18.07.12 15:45 ]

I am glad i am now retired out of the transport industry,i feel sorry for all the hauliers tryin to make a living when all the fat cat mps and bankers and all the rest of the robbers are sitting back doing nothing about this crisis,as we well know any increase in fuel comes back to the consumer YOU N ME i suppose they think we can afford it?

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[ posted by Hilary Kelly, 18.07.12 15:50 ]

Why is there so much corruption going on in this world? It seems that the head of the governments are so greedy and all they want to do is take taxes, taxes and more taxes of everyone especially this greedy English government. The cost of petrol and home heating oil is ridiculous and is affecting everyone and putting people out of business. The rising cost of fuel reflects on us all by putting the very price of food up as it is taking more and more money for the haulage companies to deliver our food. Where is it all going to end?

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[ posted by Ron Franks, 18.07.12 16:43 ]

This seems to be just another event in the international sporting arena dedicated to screwing the British people. It happens in all aspects of business life but this fiddling of oil prices is the most iniquitous because it targets everyone with the biggest sufferers being pensioners and people living rural areas. We can only hope that we will someday get a government that will actually stand up for the people of this country and stamp out this sort of behaviour. At present it is a forlorn hope!

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[ posted by Frank Beard, 18.07.12 17:19 ]

I have read a lot of the comments from other people and we all agree that something should be done...............but how do we do it? We voted to put a representative in Parliament to put our point of view forward, but once elected they seem to have a different idea to requirements of the majority. OUR opinion does not now matter as theirs is better. The last lot were no better and all had their feet in the through with no thought of running the Country, as is this lot. Question is.............how do we sort out these problems? If we have a General Election we get promises...............joke. We could go UKip and then we have stalemate............hung Parliament and even less progress to the majority requirements
Simple really.................referendum to become our own masters
Sort out the immigration
Send the foreign criminals back to source
Bring our troops back and keep our noses out of other countries problems

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[ posted by graham, 18.07.12 18:05 ]

I know this would be a hardship to myself and to many people who are already low earners but why dont we all just get together and decide to have periodic days of action in which we simply dont go to work. I would think that after a few days of utter chaos in the country that the government might finally sit up and listen to our complaints. See what happens on the continent when people are unhappy about something, Port blockades, road blockades and people just not going to work and standing up for themselves through PEOPLE POWER, and IT WORKS. We will never get anywhere in this country so long as we pussy foot about by taking surveys and polls and blaming oil price speculators and our millionare led government for there greed and a media thats in the government pocket. It needs action from the very people who are affected the most by unfair taxation and price fixing in this so called democratic country, YES US THE PUBLIC who keep bowing and ringing our caps to the fat cat politicians who really dont give a hoot about us and our requests for fair play until it nears election time and they need our support to keep themselves in a job. Things will never change unless "WE" change things by thinking and acting TOGETHER AS ONE VOICE.

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[ posted by Alex M, 18.07.12 20:07 ]

There never was an oil shortage, the 'shortage' was created by unscrupulous oil companies and traders purely to make obscene amounts at the expense of the motoring public. Anyone with a modicum of common sense knew that we were being taken for a ride just like the Libor rate fixing scandal. Of course the government won't be in too much of a rush to hold an inquiry as it is one of the beneficiaries of price fixing given that it takes massive amounts of revenue in tax and VAT. Don't hold your breath expecting to see anyone doing jail time over this, it will be all covered up as usual.
All the public are to these scum is a cash cow to be milked whenever they want more cash to line their bulging pockets.

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[ posted by Ian Rowley, 19.07.12 18:10 ]

Back in April the price of a barrel of Brent crude was about $126.00. It's now down to $103 a barrel. why hasn't the price of fuel come down accordingly.

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[ posted by Brian Davis, 21.07.12 08:08 ]

Typical & not totally unexpected....this is what you get when people get greedy and can not get enough, they are never satisfied.
As Ian Rowley said above "why hasn't the price of fuel fallen along with the cost of the barrel? GREEDY, GREEDY, Government.
Please investigate...please, stop being sheep, at least the French would put up a fight.

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[ posted by David Pickering, 23.07.12 16:50 ]

With this bunch of xxxx running the country things are never going to get better,they are about as much use as a one-legged man in an xxxx-kicking contest.Why don't us brits get together and do like the French and SHOW our discontent and let them know we won't be messed about. The aforesaid bunch don't have to pay any transport costs,I doubt,I'd be surprised if they know the price of fuel in their local garage,some don't even know the price of a pint of milk.

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[ posted by Norma Burleigh, 23.07.12 17:48 ]

Who can we trust? The government are as bad as the oil companies. Greed is what is to blame here. I am 100% behind fairfuel UK. Thank you for doing this

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[ posted by BarryMoore, 25.07.12 08:11 ]

I'm sure that mass corruption amongst fuel traders has been going on for a very long time. How often have we heard about convoys of oil tankers dropping anchor off our shores just waiting for the price to rise. This is, without doubt, the unacceptable face of capitalism which is often referred to as being subject to market forces. I also think it's not just oil traders that are guilty but, closer to home, our domestic energy suppliers are at it too. Corruption and greed today is rife in just about any business you can think of. So much for "market forces".

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[ posted by Dave Goff, 25.07.12 21:30 ]

Oil is the only commodity that is sold numerous times on the stock exchanges around the world. The politicians won't do anything as the higher the prices the more they make for there coffers. All those that send the prices high are rubbing there hands thin king all those that depend on fuel are suckers. These people have a licence to print money and no matter how much you rant and rave they will continue to carry on until there is a change in the system which won't be any time soon and they know it. ALL politicians used to work for the people NOW it the public who work for them. These 2 things need to change and if it does then we get a fair deal.

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[ posted by Al Jackson, 31.07.12 20:14 ]

I agree with Jeff Samuel's post on 16 Jul that Tesco do raise prices that coincide with their 5p off campaigns. In fact I'd go as far as to say that based on my local store in West Wales the price was raised by 3p making the actual price paid commensurate with other outlets that had no "discounts" in operation. Do they think we're all stupid? Obviously.

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[ posted by Mick Chapman, 01.09.12 21:21 ]

I have noticed here in Skegness that fuel prices are rising again at the rate of approximately 1p per two days the cheapest Diesel is now 140.9p per litre. Just over a week ago it was 136.9p per litre. Is this common all over England. So much for the government helping the small business's and motorist.

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