Thursday, June 30, 2011
Harlow MP Robert Halfon pressed the Prime Minister on the urgent need to make sure that Oil companies pass on reductions in the price of Oil to British drivers and hauliers during Prime Ministers questions on Wednesday 29th June. He also took the opportunity to ask the Prime Minister to further delay and scrap the inflationary rise in fuel duty planned for January 2012. This rise could add another 3p per litre to the cost of fuel.
With the House packed, Mr Halfon asked, ‘Given the high cost of petrol, which is crucifying motorists in Harlow and across the country, will my Honourable Friend support the FairFuelUK campaign, to urge oil companies to reduce petrol prices at the pump in line with market prices, and review the 3 pence increase next January?'
Only a few weeks ago, Mr Halfon was instrumental in securing a debate in the Commons on the issue of how high petrol and diesel prices were hurting motorists, hauliers and UK business in general.
Quentin Willson, leader of the FairFuelUK campaign welcomed the Parliamentary support demonstrated by Mr Halfon's question saying, ‘Finally the government supports FairFuelUK. They're admitting that high fuel prices have become a national and social issue. But let's not let them blame the big oil companies for everything. We know who takes the lion share out of every litre!'
Geoff Dunning of the Road Haulage Association said, ‘The fact that the Prime Minister was confronted by this question today is proof that the FairFuelUK campaign is having a real impact. The UK economy and the road hauliers that support it desperately need fuel prices that are affordable and stable, so we will be keeping up the fight to get the planned fuel duty rise in January 2012 scrapped'.
Theo de Pencier of the Freight Transport Association said, ‘The FTA is delighted that this issue has been raised in Prime Minister's Questions and that the FairFuelUK Campaign is being recognised as a credible voice in this critical issue. The Prime Minister's assurance that the government will do everything in its power to bring down the price of fuel is a good start and we look forward to working with government to see this aim realised.'
The FairFuelUK campaign is supported by the RAC and the two bodies that represent the UK road freight industry, the RHA and the FTA. Between them the RHA and FTA have over 20,000 members. The campaign also enjoys the support of over 168,000 members of the public.

Peter Carroll, organiser of the FairFuelUK campaign said, ‘FairFuelUK is taking the fuel battle to where it matters

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[ posted by Linda Brooks, 30.06.11 17:42 ]

I fill up three times a week as a Driving Instructor, it is seriously effecting my business. Many instructors are already struggling with the price of insurance, this just makes it worse. I have started a petition for our price hike in insurance. My two boys have just reached 17 and these companies want 17,000 for a 51 plate Clio, just because we live in a BB1/2 postcode.


[ posted by leon.Arditti, 30.06.11 17:44 ]



[ posted by John, 30.06.11 17:46 ]

Don't kid yourselves, Mr Cameron and other politicans couldn't care less, they claim their fuel in expenses. So great to have the support, BUT what is happening. I see no legislation to link fuel prices to the cost of crude oil, so as one rises and falls, so does the other.


[ posted by Ian Churchlow, 30.06.11 17:51 ]

Fairfuel must create greater awareness of the govenments tax imposition on the price of fuel. It may help to publish price comparisons against other European countries (and further afield). The Greens may be happy to wear a hair shirt but for everyone else, high prices are both a social impediment and a hinderance to ecconomic recovery.


[ posted by Derek Middleton, 30.06.11 18:04 ]

Not so long ago, the topic of conversation when meeting relatives, friends and colleagues was a light-hearted review of the weather. Now conversation is about worries over the threat of unemployment and about high fuel prices. Such worries have turned us into a nation of pessimists instead of optimists. The Government should hang its head in shame.


[ posted by Michael, 30.06.11 18:40 ]

A high fuel price is helpful to change the pattern of car use in this country. We need to drastically cut carbon emissions and reduce reliance on imported fuel. We can make a big difference to fuel consumption in how we drive: running a more efficient car, keeping to the speed limit, and arranging our livestyles so we don't have to drive so much. A high fuel price helps motivate people for these changes. I'm sorry for anyone who relies on driving for their job, but there is a lot that you can do to reduce fuel consumption even if you have to drive all the time.

As for complaining about the tax take, well if fuel duty is reduce we would have to pay more income tax. You takes yer choice,


[ posted by Hripsik Sowerby, 30.06.11 19:12 ]

The rich will pay the high price without a problem it is the disabled , the pensioners ,the middle class and the ones with lower income that are suffering because of the high cost of petrol that effects every aspect of daily life.
Cutting carbon emissions is only an excuse for
taxing people who are on low income already


[ posted by David H, 30.06.11 19:15 ]

The U.K.fuel price is the highest in industrial Europe the same applies to gas/electric.The U.K.government can take us for mugs and they know it.Why do you think we are still in E.U.?.


[ posted by Graham, 30.06.11 19:15 ]

What needs to happen,is for the supermarkets and garages that sell petrol and deisel to be told
that price increases can only be done from central
goverment and not when they deside that they want to make a swift buck out of the motorist.


[ posted by John Price, 30.06.11 19:24 ]

Our Dishonest, Lying, Stealing Politicians couldn't give a Damn about the price of fuel! It is pretty obvious to anyone with a modicom of common sense that if fuel is more expensive then so is everything we buy.. Taxation has reached ridiculous levels since we joined thje openly corrupt European Union who are now asking for a 5% increase!.. Revenue Cameras and numerous other Stealth Taxes not to mention the state of the roads we pay through the nose for cripple the motorist.. is the address of the Assn. of British Drivers.. it is well worth a look at their website too in order to discover how we are being ripped off!.. The last Government signed over our Country's Sovreignty to the E.U. So we no longer need our Government!.. So let's sack the lot and turn the houses of Parliament into a theme park!..


[ posted by Ken Cox, 30.06.11 19:25 ]



[ posted by Frank Dancer, 30.06.11 19:28 ]

I fully support what you are doing


[ posted by Terry, 30.06.11 19:39 ]

I agree with John Price remarks.
the people of this country should force these politicians to play by the laws the people of the uk got to live by , you make a mistake you pay for it. and made to live like most people of the uk and on the wages of most people earns in a week
i think you find these politicains would not want want to tax evey thing high then as they would be effected.


[ posted by Terry, 30.06.11 19:41 ]

I agree with John Price remarks.
the people of this country should force these politicians to play by the laws the people of the uk got to live by , you make a mistake you pay for it. and made to live like most people of the uk and on the wages of most people earns in a week
i think you find these politicains would not want want to tax evey thing high then as they would be effected.


[ posted by terry, 30.06.11 19:41 ]

surely no one believes the price of petrol will ever come down!
Oh, it might reduce by a penny or two, but what good is that for pensioners and the poor who are already struggling to make ends meet. A car is essential these days,especially for the people who live in outlying places, where buses are virtually non existant. I sincerely hope the fairfuel campaign spreads, and gathers enough names to be forwarded to the goverment.Well done quentin for pushing this home for motorists.


[ posted by nick hutson, 30.06.11 20:44 ]

the only way things will change is down to US! if we all stood together said enough is enough.We should all join in a huge effort to bring the motorways roads etc to a standstill.wether you drive a vw beatle a landrover 7.5 tonner or 38 tonner we can and should do this.its the only way we,l be heard! if this was done on mass the authorities can impound/charge us all


[ posted by Chris Smith, 30.06.11 20:44 ]

There is no doubt, that both this and the last government understand the issue of high fuel prices, and the effect that it is having on the life of everyone that uses a car. However they will not significantly drop fuel tax for the simple reason that the tax is a percentage; the higher the wholesale price, the more they collect. They need every penny they can get. I changed to diesel to get more mpg and significantly reduce the burned fuel emissions. My reward, the highest price diesel in the world. It will take the lorry freight industry to use strong arm tactics once again, to make the politicians sit up and listen. The problem with that is of course even more pain for all of us. In the end I might have to think about moving out altogether!


[ posted by nick hutson, 30.06.11 20:50 ]

lets join the lorry frieght industry.think how strong the haulage industries arm would be if we all stood together


[ posted by roger horrobin, 30.06.11 21:27 ]

The biggest part of the main problem is that the Government takes a percentage, so every time oil prices go up, the Government profits more, and the price at the pump gets hiked up by 2 elements: the increase in the cost of oils, and the increased value of the Government take. Why can't they budget their financial needs on a fixed amount from fuel, rather than a varying percentage.
And why is diesel so much more expensive (taxed higher than) petrol when diesel used to be cheaper than petrol and when it costs less to refine?
The Government's taking and taxing too much and behaving like a profiteer.


[ posted by Richard Gray, 30.06.11 22:03 ]

How come the Americans have a Gallon of petrol at $3.00 (approx £2.00) and are going crazy over the hike to this price where as we are £6.00 (approx$9.00) a Gallon.
How can there be such a price difference between 2 Countries for the same product?
Cameron goes on and on about the 1p a litre duty cut ...Did anyone notice it????


[ posted by Richard Grayy, 30.06.11 22:10 ]

I saw a comment on here about joining with the haulage industry to protest over prices.
I admit the haulage industry is a powerful lobby and could bring us stoppages like in 2000 but the problem I have is at that time in 2000 the hauliers were only interested in thereselves and backed off when the transport industy was offered concessions by the Labour Government at the time. The hard done to ordinary motorists that stood by them back in 2000 got stuffed.


[ posted by nick hutson, 30.06.11 22:43 ]

hi richard your right but its time we stand together and show the goverment we wont be pushed around anymore


[ posted by Gerald, 30.06.11 23:00 ]

I run a small decorating business in a rural county of Lincolnshire. Finding it dificult to make a profit due to oil prices rising weekly. Oil prices also put up the paint prices frequently. With the credit crunch customers reluctent to pay the extra cost. with 2.5 percent vat increase on petrol, derv and goods we buy. If Cameron thinks the 1p a litre cut he keeps reminding us about is going to keep the motorist quite he is sadly wrong. Keep the good work up fairfuel you have my full support.


[ posted by keit sowden, 30.06.11 23:12 ]

Our politicians waste millions of gallons of fuel, but they expect us to sit at home because we cannot afford the tax on petrol. Testicles!


[ posted by SonOfPeak, 01.07.11 04:56 ]

It's time to end our addiction to oil and here's how we can do it:

A Twelve-Step Plan to End Oil Addiction (courtesy of The Oil Drum)

1. Stop deluding ourselves. The era of cheap, readily-available oil has ended. Prices may fluctuate, but the underlying trend is up, up, up. We have to get used to using less.

2. Demand that politicians take the issue seriously. Make it an election issue. Don't take 'we've got everything under control' as an answer.

3. Stop building new roads. They're a monumental waste of money, time and effort. They encourage, rather than ease congestion and besides, the growth in car travel that's used to justify them isn't going to happen anyway.

4. Divert that money and effort into measures that address the challenges of oil depletion and climate change.

5. Make a major investment in public transport. It needs to be better, faster, more comfortable, more regular and more predictable. It needs to cater for everyone, not just peak-hour commuters though they need a better service as well.

6. Make a major investment in broadband internet to allow more people to work from home and change tax and business practices that discourage working from home. The more car trips we can avoid, the better.

7. Electrify transport where possible. We should be electrifying commuter rail where it is not already electric and using light rail (trams) in the cities. On the other end of the scale, electric bikes and scooters can make a big difference in our cities. And electric cars show promise, though there's a lot of questions to be answered yet.

8. Don't use cars unless there's no alternative. Take the bus. Take the train. Switch to a scooter. Walk or cycle - both your wallet and your doctor will thank you.

9. Deal with other aspects of our oil dependence. Agriculture, for example, is highly dependent on oil. We're going to need to change the way we grow and distribute food. Let's get to work on that now, not wait until supermarket shelves start to empty.

10. Stockpile or manufacture vital products currently imported from overseas. When oil runs short, will that still be possible? Let's take stock now and work out what we may need to start stockpiling or making (again) in the UK.

11. Think local. Ending our oil addiction isn't just up to central government, though it can play its part. Communities can work together to make themselves more resilient. Join or start a Transition Towns group in your local area.

12. Accept reality. The age of cheap oil is over. It's not coming back. As individuals and as a nation, we have to adapt.

From this moment on, oil prices will continue to rise.

For the terminally bewildered amongst you I repeat:

The time is now to start thinking about and making changes to the way you live so your life is not so oil-centered. Remember that a lack of oil extends far beyond just not being able to drive your car - so many other products, services and industries are based on oil.

Start preparing for a life of austerity. NOW!

Find local employment. Reduce your debts. Reduce your fuel consumption. Grow your own vegetables or buy from local suppliers. Exercise regularly. Insulate your home. Help your family, friends and colleagues to understand the implications of Peak Oil.

Got it? :-)


[ posted by SonOfPeak, 01.07.11 05:05 ]





The end of cheap oil has got governments panicking to control prices rather than planning for a post-oil era. The Ecologist reports

Was it a sign of desperation or show of strength?

In a surprising move, the major oil consuming countries, principally Europe and the US, agreed last week to release some of their emergency reserves of oil in an attempt to try and cut the high market price of oil.

It was only the third time in history such collective action had been taken, the previous being during the Gulf War in 1991 and in 2005, after Hurricane Katrina damaged offshore oil rigs, pipelines and refineries in the Gulf of Mexico.

Officially, it was to offset the loss of oil from Libya as a result of the ongoing conflict in the country. But there are suggestions the US and others had lost faith in the World's biggest oil exporter, Saudi Arabia, being able to increase oil production enough to keep prices from rising.

This comes after a leaked memo from a senior Saudi oil executive in February alleged the country's oil reserves were being overstated.


Regardless of the motives, the decision is being seen as the start of a new era of government intervention in the oil market.

'We have learnt a big lesson. This is a dry run for how governments will respond in a few years time when we get a permanent oil price rise,' says John Miles, chairman of the UK Industry Taskforce on Peak Oil and Energy Security.

Some observers go further in saying the move is evidence that we may already be entering a 'peak oil' period.

They say rising market prices reflect a falling confidence in the ability of key oil producing countries to increase production to meet the rising demand for oil from emerging nations like China (already the world's second largest oil consumer after the US) and India.

David Strahan, author of The Last Oil Shock, says while not definitive proof of peak oil, 'it shows doubts amongst countries about oil supplies and suggests we may be very close to peak oil'.


This new period, the 'approach to peak oil' as Dr Richard Miller from the Oil Depletion Analysis Centre (ODAC) refers to it, has eroded spare capacity and reduced the amount of new oil coming on stream to replace declines from existing fields around the world.

Without cheap alternatives, the oil industry is being forced to look at more unconventional sources of oil, such as tar sands.

The ODAC say these are not sufficient to be able to fill the future gap between supply and demand. What's more they come at a high cost. Both in economic terms and in the, as yet unaccounted for, environmental costs.

It's production process is three times more carbon-intensive than conventional oil sources - with extraction requiring the creation of vast open mines to get to the mixture of oil, clay and sand. In Canada, which holds the largest known deposits, extraction has also been linked to rising incidence of cancer and the pollution of major rivers with arsenic, lead and mercury.

None of this has stopped BP, Shell, Total and others from looking to invest.


While the approach of the oil industry is not surprising, the recent government intervention is more unexpected.

It shows the real worry governments have about high oil prices 'putting the brakes' on economic growth. It also shows how dependant and reliant industrialised countries like the UK, have become on oil.

David Korowicz, from the environmental analysts Feasta, explains: 'Firstly, rising prices squeeze out less essential consumption leading to business closures and unemployment. Secondly, higher oil prices mean more money flows out of oil consuming countries into oil producers. Less money flowing around the economy means less money for businesses, and less money for people to service their debts. Growing defaults further destabilise banks and government debt loads. The Eurozone, the US, and the UK are all suffering under massive debts, rising oil (and food) prices could effectively push them over the edge.'

The UK and world economies are effectively 'locked into' an unsustainable position. But rather than tackle the enormity of the crisis peak oil presents, the UK and others have decided to use any means possible to 'wriggle out of a high oil price'.

John Miles, from the Industry Tasforce, says the government's reaction shows it continues to be 'behind the curve' on peak oil. 'They should be getting ready for how to deal with it, but my fear is they will wait and try to respond to it in a few years time.'

Willy De Backer, head of the influential 'Greening Europe Forum', believes it will take a major shock before countries look to a post-oil future. He fears we are already entering a period of unpredictable developments or 'black swan events', which could stifle economic recovery and lead to civil unrest.

He says the problem is compounded by the lack of transparency amongst oil producing countries and the difficulty in knowing how much oil is really out there. This has left politicans scared about speaking out on the issue for fear of being too alarmist and frightening people, says De Backer.


In summary, the future of oil, say peak oil observers, is caught between society's long term need for a divorce, its current addiction, and the short term priorities of politicians and investors.

As a report by Deutsche Bank, 'The Peak Oil Market: Price Dynamics at the End of the Oil Age', pointed out, with so many parts of our economy, especially food prices, closely linked to oil prices, our eventual divorce from oil is likely to be messy.

The findings are similar to a recently revealed report that UK ministers commissioned but then refused to publish, which warned of civil unrest from 'peak oil' energy shortages.

Despite all the warnings about supply and volatile prices, the Deutsche Bank report still did not expect governments to prepare for the post-oil era.

'I think some governments are already spooked by high oil prices,' says Mike Childs, head of climate change at Friends of the Earth. 'Trying to keep oil prices down is a failure to recognise that oil prices are only going one way and that is up. Increasing demand and dwindling supplies paint an ugly picture.'

The UK department for energy and climate change insist last week's intervention was a 'short-term measure' which, 'does not alter out position or commitment to move to a low carbon economy'.

Others disagree. Shaun Chamberlin, author of 'The Transition Timeline' and a DECC advisor, says the department is caught between two conflicting aims: keeping energy available and at a low cost while trying to reduce emissions, primarily through a high carbon price.

'The two aims are pulling against each other,' he says. The question for him is whether the UK will take on ideas like the transition town movement and adapt to a post-oil era or wait for the crisis?


[ posted by Lyn S, 01.07.11 07:07 ]

It is sad we have rude, ignorant people around ie the above Davy Ray, who have to resort to sarcasm. Whilst needing to be reaistic regarging the diminishing world oil supplies I'd like to thank Quentin Wlson and the Fairfuel campaign for exerting pressure on the politicians. As a disabled pensioner, I NEED a car to get out at all. To the 'get-on-a-bus/bike' campaigners, I'd love to if I could!


[ posted by ryan frampton, 01.07.11 08:58 ]

Oil prices dropped weeks ago....Why do we still have 1.34 per litre with no reduction at the pumps evident?


[ posted by eddie, 01.07.11 09:21 ]

Guys if you think this shower will push for lower prices on fuel you are in for a big mistake,the higher the price the more the govt get so its not in there interest,a simple fact higher fuel prices means more income for govt ,higher prices means inflation,higher prices means more people out of work and practically stagnates growth so where is brains behind this stupidity and i thought that clown blair was gone as for the greeny hippie types walk dont use transport it will make you feel better.


[ posted by Colin Westworth, 01.07.11 11:00 ]

The Labour Party did a bloody good job before they departed power. Most of the comments above are true but we do have the ACE CARD and we must all pull together and do what the French do.STAND ARM IN ARM and say Bollocks.This Govenrment are not for this country, they are in cuckoo land


[ posted by David J Taylor, 01.07.11 11:10 ]

Scarcer and dearer.

People, remember those two words.

It's what is going to happen to fuel.

Scarcer and dearer.

Tinker with tax but you're not going to change the meaning of those two words.


[ posted by James, 01.07.11 13:29 ]

"[ posted by David H, June 30, 2011 20:15 ]
The U.K.fuel price is the highest in industrial Europe"

No it isn't. As of the end of April the UK had the 12th highest petrol price and 3rd highest diesel price in Europe. The AA compiles a report of the average fuel prices of UK regions and across all European nations, have a look at that.


[ posted by Ken Tatham, 01.07.11 14:08 ]

Cameron talks about the penny off what did Gideon do ? That's right put VAT up to 20%. We pay a lot for what was originally a waste product from crude oil. There are a multitude of products which come from oil before we get diesel and petrol.


[ posted by Ken Tatham, 01.07.11 14:09 ]

Cameron talks about the penny off what did Gideon do ? That's right put VAT up to 20%. We pay a lot for what was originally a waste product from crude oil. There are a multitude of products which come from oil before we get diesel and petrol.


[ posted by Chas Vee, 01.07.11 15:13 ]

climate change, carbon emissions, scarcity, escalating prices. 12 point plans, public transport reform, etc., These are some of the words used by the socialist elite to create a culture of panic and imminent doom. Their purpose is political power and their objective is to control us ordinary citizens of this great nation in order to impose their world view which is of course
....." we know better than you, we are better than you and therefore we have right to be in charge. You are stupid, ignorant and prejudiced with no right to disagree..."

It's all lies, all of it!
want to know more about this revolutionary view? ...then watch this space. THX


[ posted by Rob Teasle, 01.07.11 15:48 ]

Re: most of the comments above:


The world is about to descend into a 30 year war as the battle for energy heats up, it has been claimed.

World security expert Michael Klare believes the next three decades will see powerful corporations at serious risk of going bust, nations fighting for their futures and significant bloodshed.

He said the winners in the race for energy security will get to decide how we live, work and play in future years - with the losers 'cast aside and dismembered'.

'Over the coming decades, we will be embroiled at a global level in a succeed-or-perish contest among the major forms of energy, the corporations which supply them, and the countries that run on them,' he told CBS News.

'Why 30 years? Because that's how long it will take for experimental energy systems like hydrogen power, cellulosic ethanol, wave power, algae fuel, and advanced nuclear reactors to make it from the laboratory to full-scale industrial development.'

Professor Klare, of Hampshire College, predicted that nations would soon resort to armed violence in a bid to protect their natural resources.

He likened the looming conflicts to the 17th Century 30 Years War.

This was when Europe was engulfed, between 1618 and 1648, in a series of brutal battles between the imperial system of governance and the emerging nation-state.

He added: 'When these three decades are over, as with the Treaty of Westphalia [which ended the 30 Years War] the planet is likely to have in place the foundations of a new system for organizing itself - this time around energy needs.

'The struggle for energy resources is guaranteed to grow ever more intense for a simple reason: there is no way the existing energy system can satisfy the world’s future requirements.'

'In the meantime, the struggle for energy resources is guaranteed to grow ever more intense for a simple reason: there is no way the existing energy system can satisfy the world’s future requirements.

'It must be replaced or supplemented in a major way by a renewable alternative system or, forget Westphalia, the planet will be subject to environmental disaster of a sort hard to imagine today.'

Oil, coal and gas currently supply 87 per cent of the world's total energy.

Over the next 30 years an additional 40 per cent of energy will be needed to cope with the rising demand in China and other rapidly developing nations.

But oil is expected to reach a production peak in the next few years and then start an irreversible decline - and the accelerating pace of climate change will produce ever more damage.

A host of intense storm activity, prolonged droughts, lethal heat waves and massive forest fires will force politicians to impose curbs on carbon dioxide emissions.

A decrease in oil, and the CO2 limits, will mean that by 2041 fossil fuels will not be supplying anywhere near its previous level of world energy.

There will then be more emphasis on finding alternatives - and the countries or companies who succeed will be well placed to become the energy, and commercial, superpowers of the 22nd century and beyond.

Nuclear power is another option, and before March's core meltdowns at the earthquake and tsunami hit Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power complex in Japan, analysts spoke of a nuclear 'renaissance'.

As a temporary solution, energy experts believe finitely available natural gas could be an answer.

But the controversial procedure of obtaining it, called hydraulic fracturing (fracking), poses a threat to the safety of drinking water and so may by opposed.

Nuclear power is another option, and before March's core meltdowns at the earthquake and tsunami hit Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power complex in Japan, analysts spoke of a nuclear 'renaissance'.

They predicted that hundreds of new nuclear reactors would be built across the world over the next few decades.

But the catastrophe increased public concern and so, Professor Klare said, it was 'unlikely' nuclear power would be one of the big winners in 2041.

He thought wind and solar power would go from around one per cent of the total world energy consumption in 2008 to a projected four per cent in 2035.

But this would prove 'small potatoes' if there were no major breakthroughs in the design of wind turbines, solar collectors and energy storage.

If those developments did occur, then he said China, Germany and Spain would be well placed to win the war as they have made significant investment in the technology.

Biofuels and hydrogen power could also make a significant dent into the energy supply, but he said it was too early to know if they would pan out.

A number of other energy sources, including geothermal, wave and tidal, were also all in the early stages of development and would require major breakthroughs to have any lasting effect.

'Were I to wager a guess, I might place my bet on energy systems that were decentralized, easy to make and install, and required relatively modest levels of up-front investment.'

Whatever succeeded, Professor Klare, who wrote 'Rising Powers, Shrinking Planet', said the world would be a 'far different place' at the end of the war in 2041.

He said it would be 'hotter, stormier and with less land [given the loss of shoreline and low-lying areas to rising sea levels]'.

Carbon emissions would be strictly limited and oil only available to those who could afford it.

He added: 'Were I to wager a guess, I might place my bet on energy systems that were decentralized, easy to make and install, and required relatively modest levels of up-front investment.

'For an analogy, think of the laptop computer of 2011 versus the giant mainframes of the 1960s and 1970s. The closer that an energy supplier gets to the laptop model, the more success will follow.'

30 YEARS WAR: 1618 to 1648

* Europe engulfed in series of brutal conflicts

* It was, in part, a struggle between an imperial system of governance and the emerging nation-state

* Historians believe modern international system of nation-states was crystallized in the Treaty of Westphalia of 1648 which ended the fighting

Giant nuclear reactors and coal-fired plants would, in the long run, only thrive in places like China were authoritarian governments still called the shots.

But the real promise would be when renewable sources of energy and advanced biofuels could be produced on a smaller scale with less up-front investment.

That way it could be incorporated into daily life even at a community or neighbourhood level.

He concluded in his report: 'Whichever countries move most swiftly to embrace these or similar energy possibilities will be the likeliest to emerge in 2041 with vibrant economies -- and given the state of the planet, if luck holds, just in the nick of time.'


[ posted by stve, 02.07.11 08:55 ]

What I can't understand is why diesel costs so much more than petrol .
This is definately a tax on our hauliers.
Why because during the refinement process petrol needs more refining than diesel as any chemist would tell you so less processing.
Then why so expensive there is no justifiction for it,


[ posted by Brian Denton, 02.07.11 12:22 ]

This country has been at war somewhere for 66 years since the end of WW2. You don't have to be a genius to figure out what that costs the country and who is picking up the ever increasing tab. Nor do you have to be on the front line to be a target. It is not the 10% of the population that owns most of the wealth who are suffering, it is the rest of us now struugling to make ends meet. I am a pensioner, trust me, I know.


[ posted by Bev, 02.07.11 22:15 ]

Living in an area served by one bus limits my chances of finding employment unless I have a car. Relocating to another county will only transfer the problem. We cannot all live in London with a great Tube service. Reduce the cost of fuel so I can afford to go out there and find employment. Yes I will still need to use the car if i successfully find a job, but I have no choice. No I am not willing to risk my life by cycling on the roads.
The only solution to the problem of reduced stocks of oil is for the manufacturers to design vehicles powered by another form of energy which is in plentiful supply without harming the environment or our purses.


[ posted by Rob Teasle, 03.07.11 10:21 ]

Peak Oil - Visually Explained



[ posted by diyd, 03.07.11 21:27 ]

Clearly Michael (June 30th 19:40) and SonofPeak (July 1st 6:05) must either not drive at all or have so much money (or access to expenses) that they just don't understand what this is all about.


[ posted by Chas Vee, 04.07.11 23:53 ]

Mr Teasle you have just proven my point by resorting to the usual socialist tactics of bullying us with verbose academic polemic, twisting history to support your point and also resorting to insulting me personally. Shame on you. Where was your professor in the lead up to the 2007 crash, eh?
The Guardian is socialist propaganda as is the BBC news. ...and Questiontime is rammed with people like you!!


[ posted by Rob Teasle, 05.07.11 08:34 ]

In case you hadn't noticed Chas, the article I presented was published by THE DAILY MAIL and not THE GUARDIAN as you seem to suggest.

Anyway, left or right wing political views will all become superfluous from now on.

The lack of cheap, readily available energy and the resulting economic consequences will soon become the only game in town.

I suggest you start to research PEAK OIL and begin to change your lifestyle and aspirations accordingly.


[ posted by Chas Vee, 05.07.11 15:33 ]

"we're all doomed!" cried Fraser on Dad's Army. Just like you Mr weasle, harbingers of woe. Well we won that war and we'll win this one too. Despite your negative assumptions including those about my lifestyle - you know nothing about my lifestyle! If I said I was from the USA I expect that would allow you to dismiss me completely.
bye-bye socialist elite you are the one's that are "doomed".


[ posted by Rob Teasle, 05.07.11 22:15 ]


[ posted by peter, 07.07.11 16:15 ]

why would politicians lison to us. thay claim there fuil back we pay for it in taxes.???


[ posted by Mike Hutchinson, 15.07.11 06:22 ]

1.We are disproportionately crippled by about the highest fuel tax of any country, why us?
2. Almost everyone is adversely affected, especially the lower earners, those in rural areas and businesses involved with transport. Cost of fuel indirectly affects the price of nearly all produce and services.
3. Emmission reductions are regulated by MOT standards and should not be forced by pricing.
4. VAT is applicable to cost PLUS basic tax, so we are taxed on tax. The VAT rate should be significantly reduced for fuel.
5. Whilst recognising the need for raising revenue, the essential "motorist" should not be used as an easy milch cow.
6. Urgent attention should be paid to this unfair and damaging situation. Cut the debate time, ACTION NOW!


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